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| ID: 39-JSM |
Town of Interest:
Lancashire - Colne |
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Researchers: John & Lillian Smith
Location: Australia |
Contact through own website
Family History of John Smith & Lily Howson |
Smith Chat Forum Username:-
Online Office Pigeon-hole 39-jsm |
Interests added to Smith List: 2005/
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SMITH Direct Line.
William(1) SMITH born 1738 Great Marsden,
married Susannah SHACKLETON
Their son:
William(2) SMITH
(birthplace/date unknown ??Gt.Marsden area)
married Martha ECKROYD
Their son:
Henry SMITH born 29 Oct 1811 in Colne
Henry m Alice HARTLEY 18 Dec 1844, Colne
** see notes below re Smith-Hartley children**
Son of Henry & Alice:
Henry(2) born 13 Aug 1852 Colne
m Emma RILEY 12 Dec 1874, Great Marsden
Son of Henry(2) & Emma:
John Willie born 29 Dec 1876 Colne
married Maggie BATTRUM 27 Jan 1900,
Colne Independent Chapel
Son of John Willie & Maggie:
Fred born 8 Aug 1900 Colne
m Mary WEBSTER 10 Sep 1925
at Wheatley Carr
** notes
1851 Census Church Clough, Great Marsden
for Henry(1) Smith 39 & Alice Smith 33 Wife (nee Hartley)
includes children as follows.....
* Margaret Smith 15 Dau,
* Mary Ann Smith 10 Dau
William Smith 6 Son, James Smith 3 Son
* Margaret & Mary Ann Hartley (aka Smith)
illegitimate daughters of Alice, born
before she married Henry Smith.
1861 Census - household of Henry(1) & Alice.
By this time Margaret Hartley (aka Smith)
no longer with the family
Children included in the Return are.....
Mary Ann HARTLEY 20 Step-daughter.
William Smith 16 Son, James Smith 14 Son,
John Smith 13 Son, Henry Smith 8 Son,
* Smith HARTLEY 4 Gson
* nb: Smith HARTLEY, the son of Margaret Hartley (aka Smith)
1881 Census,16 Garden St, Colne:
Henry(1) & Smith are the only 2 persons at
his household.....
Henery SMITH 66 Head Wid
Retired weaver, b.Colne
Smith HARTLEY 24 Gson U/M
Cotton weaver, b.Colne
Smith Hartley was the benificiary
of Henry's will.
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nb: common ancestor & family connections
to Susan Eldridge (ID 46-SEL - page 15) |
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John & his mother Mary Smith (nee Webster) 1932, Colne, Lancashire
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Image reproduced with kind permission
of John Smith.
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Now living in Australia, both John Smith & his wife Lilian (nee Howson) are born and bred East Lancastrians. John born in Colne and Lilian born in Blackburn. Data collected by John & Lilian & available on their own site, includes their separate Family Trees & Pedigree Charts;
1841 to 1901 Census Data, & images of birth & marriage certificates, and with a lovely collection of family photographs. |
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| ID: 40-DON |
Town/s of Interest:
W.R.Yorkshire - Bradford, Leeds,
Bramley, Rothwell, Dewsbury. |
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Researcher: Diane O'Neill
Location: Ontario, Canada
Email: d i c o n 1 [at] live.ca
(address updated Aug 2010)
Smith Chat Forum Username:-
Online Office Pigeon-hole - ?? |
Interests submitted: 2005/
Updates 2006/ re-vamped 2010 |
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Frederick and Herbert were the sons of
Joseph Smith and Ann Wainwright
Joseph & Ann were married at the
baptist Chapel Bramley July 22, 1871.
Joseph was born about 1847.
According to the 1851 Census, he was born in Bramley. He was the son of Benjamin SMITH
of Rothwell parish and Mary or Marian.
Benjamin SMITH was Christened
March 14, 1806, Rothwell Parish,
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| I haven't found out anything of Benjamin's parents, James and Mary. I did find some of their family Christened at Dewsbury but not my gg grandfather. Just a couple of his siblings. All I know about Benjamin is Rothwell Parish. |
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More about my grandfather Fred's brother:
Herbert Wainwright SMITH
born February 13, 1874,
Haley's Yard Bramley.
He married Elizabeth Ann BURNELL.
Both Frederick and Herbert had their mother's maiden name as their second name and thats the only way I found out this much information.
Their mother, Ann Smith nee Wainwright,
died in 1878 and from what information
I have gathered - Joseph's sister, Sarah, raised Herbert, and Frederick stayed with his father.
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Seeking further information for......
1) HERBERT WAINWRIGHT SMITH
(born 1874 Bramley) and married in Bramley
to Elizabeth Ann BURNELL.
As Herbert was my grandfather's
brother but raised by their aunt Sarah,
I know nothing except his marriage
certificate. I would appreciate any information on the whereabouts of Herbert Wainwright
SMITHS place of burial. Herbert lived in
Bramley as far as I know also that
he possibly died in the mid 1940's.
I was wondering what the names were
of cemeteries close to Armley and
Bramley and if anyone can tell me how
close they are together? Looking at
a map has been no help to me I am
afraid.
2) JOSEPH SMITH, the father of
Herbert and brother Fred (my grandfather)
A record of Joseph's birth c1847? I
dont know of a middle name for Joseph.
His wife Ann nee Wainwright died when the
boys were small. I haven't been able to
find out if Joseph ever remarried which
I think he must have.
I just don't know where else to look for
any information of these 2. Tried everything.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
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My brother's family.
My living relatives mentioned here
have given their permission for
these details to be published)
My brother John Malcolm Smith,
born October 3, 1931, St. Catharines,
Ontario Canada.,to John Henry Smith
and Dorothy Thurston. Died June 17, 1995.
Married to Joyce Roberts, September 1953.
Children of Malcolm Smith and Joyce Roberts:
Linda Lee Smith Born August 14, 1954
married to Jeff Walsh,
David Mitchell Smith born March 26, 1956
married Colleen Kerr-2 daughters
Malcolm Bradley Smith born April 30, 1958
Laurie Anne Smith born Sept. 29, 1959,
One son, one daughter
John Lindsay Allan Smith Born May 10, 1962
Robert (Robbie) Smith born July 26, 1963
One son and one Daughter
Christopher Smith born Jan. 1966 married Vera
2 daughters
Tracy Diane Smith born Sept. 14,1969.,
2 daughters.
All children born in Toronto Ontario |
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| Here is a picture of my husband and myself on our Silver Anniversary taken a few years ago. |
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Dorothy Diane O'Neill nee Smith,
daughter of
John Henry Smith and Dorothy Thurston,
Grandaughter of Frederick Wainwright Smith
and Henrietta Lloyd.
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Notes added by Carole: Lovely photo Diane.
Here's a link to a website dedicated to bygone times in Bramley Village, on the outskirts of Leeds. Bramley History Community Archive |
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The following is all I know about
my Smith family. I will start with
myself and go from there.
Dorothy Diane SMITH born April 21, 1935,
St. Catharines Ontario
My brother -
John Malcolm SMITH, born October 3, 1931,
St. Catharines Ontario
(more later in this summary about
my brother, his marriage and family)
Our Parents:
*John Henry SMITH born July 7, 1904,
Bramley Yorkshire, and
Dorothy Ellen Thurston born
September 3, 1908 Bobcaygeon, Ontario.
*John Henry Smith, my father, was the son of Frederick Wainwright SMITH
born August 16, 1875,
Goodson's Row, Bramley
and Henrietta LLOYD
born September 14, 1875, Bramley |
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Frederick Wainwright SMITH and his wife Henrietta LLOYD, c1905. Son Clifford standing and John sitting ( my dad).
The photograph was taken at a place called
A. Lager, 55 North Parade, Bradford and Keighley. Probably about 1905 as my dad was born 1904.
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Fred and Henrietta were married at
St. Peter's Bramley Dec 25, 1897.
They lived in Bradford in the year 1901
and he was an engine fitter.
Their children born in Bramley, W.R.Y, were
son Clifford born 1901,
*My dad John born 1904,
Hilda born 1905.
They came to Canada around 1905 or 1906.
Fred must have had a job lined up before they came over. They resided in Peterborough Ontario for 15 years then moved to St. Catharines about 1920.
Frederick died in 1935 and his obit. states he is survived by one brother in England,
Herbert Wainwright Smith
(more later in this summary about the brother)
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| ID: 41-JEN |
Towns of Interest:
W.R.Yorkshire - Meanwood (Leeds),
Thorpe Audley (nr Pontefract), & Badsworth |
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Researcher: Jenny Cowling
Location: Scotland |
| Email: j e n c o w l i n g [at] h o t m a i l.com |
Own Website:
Jenny Cowling's Family History Pages |
Smith Chat Forum Username:-
Online Office Pigeon-hole 41-jen |
Interests added to Smith List: 2005/
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| I have 2 separate Smith connections: |
| First SMITH connection |
Richard Smith originated in Scarborough,
he came to settle in Meanwood, Leeds
in the mid-1800’s. He was a Master tailor. |
The possible marriage of Richard Smith to his wife Elizabeth:
15th May 1826 at Leeds Parish,
Richard Smith "of this parish, tailor" and
Elizabeth Park "of this parish" |
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Their children were all born at Meanwood,
Leeds, including their daughter Rachel (my direct ancestor). |
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Rachel Smith, born 13-Apr-1833, married
David Lupton Cowling on the 21-Apr-1862
Meanwood, Leeds. |
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Their son, John William Cowling,
b.23-Dec-1865 Meanwood Leeds
My great-grandfather, son of
Rachel Smith and David Lupton Cowling
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| Second Smith connection: |
Esther SMITH
of Thorpe Audley(near Pontefract).
bap. 12-May-1771, Badsworth,
daughter of John & Mary Smith. |
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Esther was the 2nd wife of Anthony Hopton
of Darlington. They lived in Leeds. |
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Son of Esther Smith and Anthony Hopton:
Christopher Hopton, born 1806.
died 1841 in Leeds. My 3xGreat-Grandfather. |
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| Notes added by Carole: See the COWLING and HOPTON family tree pages at Jenny's own site for more about her SMITH connections. |
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